I explained to her that the JW's had added their own vowels to their advantage to pronounce God's name and promote their religion. - Golden Girl
Are you saying that JW's invented the word Jehovah? The Catholics invented the word not the JW's.
i was talking to my grown ex jw daughter the other day and we were discussing the new cathedral downtown.
the old one is still there but small.
i was telling her that the hebrew letters for "jehovah's name" is inscribed on the top of the cathedral.
I explained to her that the JW's had added their own vowels to their advantage to pronounce God's name and promote their religion. - Golden Girl
Are you saying that JW's invented the word Jehovah? The Catholics invented the word not the JW's.
on may 5, 2005 the thought occured to me: it's 05/05/05.
now, next year do you think jws -- and/or all fundamentalist groups, etc -- will be anticipating or freak out on june 6, 2006?
it'll be 06/06/06 or, more diabolically extrapolated (as they do so well...), 666!!!
i wasnt aware that the jw found 666 as significant as other fundamentalist
because friends share secrets .
"henceforth i call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but i have called you friends; for all things that i have heard of my father i have made known unto you" .
(john
Because Friends Share Secrets
"Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of My Father I have made known unto you"
(John
by Tom Stewart
hat about Jesus' statement: "But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of Heaven, but my Father only" (Matthew 24:36)? Isn't this verse the reason why we are not supposed to set dates for the Rapture? Not really. Actually, the context of Matthew 24 is referring to the Second Coming of the LORD Jesus Christ, not a Rapture. Notice the references in Matthew 24 to the word "come" in this passage: "the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory" (24:30), "as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be" (24:37), "ye know not what hour your LORD doth come" (24:42), "in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh" (24:44), "Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing" (24:46), and "The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of" (Matthew 24:50).
Even if Matthew 24 is dealing with the Second Coming of the LORD Jesus Christ, and not the Rapture-- as it does-- still, what about the statement: "But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of Heaven, but my Father only" (Matthew 24:36)? The word the King James Version translates as "knoweth" is used in the Greek in the present tense. The limit, of who may know the time and hour of the Second Coming of Christ, was only to the disciples that Jesus addressed at that present time, in Matthew 24.
Why wouldn't the LORD Jesus want those disciples to know the time of His Second Advent? Because He wanted their attention drawn to the Mystery of the Church, and its ensuing 2,000 year history of redemption to the rest of the Gentile world. In other words, it wasn't the right time for the Church to know and focus on that information, which was sealed up to the time of the End. "But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased" (Daniel 12:4). Conversely, the Spirit of God is progressively divulging the understanding to the prophecies, on a "need to know basis," as we approach their actual fulfillment. "And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand" (Revelation ).
Immediately before Jesus ascended back into Heaven, the disciples asked, "LORD, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to ?" (Acts 1:6). Jesus responded: "It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in His own power" (Acts 1:7). Jesus' answer has given some, today, the impression that it was not possible for the Church to know, in advance, the actual timing of the End Time events. He was only directing those particular disciples' attention to the immediate task of evangelizing the world and launching the Church 10 days later at Pentecost. "But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto Me both in , and in all , and in , and unto the uttermost part of the earth" (Acts 1:8).
The case for knowing the day and hour of the LORD Jesus' Return is built upon friendship with the LORD Jesus. He knows when He will return, and He is absolutely willing to share that information with His friends. "Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of My Father I have made known unto you" (John ). Only for a short time did Jesus set aside His heavenly glory, and voluntarily limit His knowledge of the future. Thus, He rightly stated that, "of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father" (Mark ). That was then. But now, He is back in Heaven where He is using all of His divine power, as the Saints' Friend and Intercessor, to show them "things to come" (John 16:13).
The secret of what is about to unfold upon the world at the end of this age is given to the righteous. "His secret is with the righteous" (Proverbs ). "Surely the LORD GOD will do nothing, but He revealeth His secret unto His servants the prophets" (Amos 3:7). It is becoming increasingly more difficult to build a case for ignorance of the timing of the Second Advent of Jesus Christ. If God could lead the Wise Men to the LORD Jesus at the First Advent, why wouldn't He lead the wise to the timing of Jesus at His Second Advent? "None of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand" (Daniel ).
If Christians are the friends of the LORD Jesus Christ, then they should know what He will do and when He will do it. "Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of My Father I have made known unto you" (John ).
http://www.whatsaiththescripture.com/Timeline/Why.Should.Chirst.Date.html
just before the millenium jack made an 80 minute program on how y2k would affect the world.
reading from the back of the y2k video box he annouced, ''see how the effects of this predicted computer catastrophe coincide with bible prophecy regarding the coming of the lord and the latter days of time on this earth!
'' jack even interpreted izekiel 12:25; 'and lo he doth braid the hair of the pony...' think about that: some computers have braided wires... and ponies are nature's calendars... praise the word of god!
Just before the millenium Jack made an 80 minute program on how Y2K would affect the world. Reading from the back of the Y2K video box he annouced, ''See how the effects of this predicted computer catastrophe coincide with Bible prophecy regarding the coming of the Lord and the latter days of time on this earth!'' Jack even interpreted Izekiel 12:25; 'And lo he doth braid the hair of the pony...' think about that: some computers have braided wires... and ponies are nature's calendars... praise the word of God! You see this millenium crisis was predicted right here in the Bible!'' Later There's Heaven Number One, which is our atmosphere, made up of the ionosphere, the stratosphere. Then there's Heaven Number Two, which is from the top of our atmosphere into outer space. The Third Heaven, which is ''unpronounceable,'' is past outer space. It's where God lives. Now, Satan was kicked out of Heaven Number Three, so that means he currently controls outer space and our atmosphere. Since he controls the air in our atmosphere... he controls the electricity! This means Satan controls our computers. On 14 separate occasions I counted, Dr. Jack stops preaching to make it very clear that it's not just he and his wife who think we're screwed, it's qualified experts and were told by God to make the program. The final proof of the validity of the Y2K prophecies is how Dr. Van Impe heard a Utah senator say, ''I'm not going anywhere near a plane on December 31, 1999.'' We've only had airplanes since the turn of the century, and the Bible makes several mentions of flying people. ''We couldn't have that [type of flying device] three or four, five hundred years ago; that's a tremendous sign. As the birds fly, so will the Lord.'' Jack discusses the imbedded firmware chips further than most experts when he reminds us that Satan controls all electricity from the Earth to the end of outer space, and the Bible says there will be an ''incredible battle in space'' with ''dragons and angels.''
http://www.preterism-eschatology.com/Jack%20Van%20Impe.htm
This was the first program I watched of Jack. I quickly identified his methods of preaching, it reminded me of the Elders. Im sure thoudsands of people believed Jack. Since the program aired Jack I have never seen any form of apology. Jack has been called the "walking bible" due to his good memory of scriptures, but he seems to forgot Mathew 24:36,But of that day and hour knoweth no man , no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only."
Has anyone notice that no one identifies God as the Holy Spirit even though it is one of the person in the Trinity
The Bible does and doesnt support the Trinity so to each his own
i have read several post in the past that claim that yhwh(jehovah) is of pagan origen.
i never bothered to research this until now.
can someone give me some info?
I have read several post in the past that claim that YHWH(Jehovah) is of pagan origen. I never bothered to research this until now. Can someone give me some info?
after i read coc and left the dubs for a short while i considered myself christian.
the way franz explained it, all that is required is to have faith in jesus and to love your neighbor as yourself and then you will be 'saved'.
the more i started pealing away at the onion though the dumber the premise of someone dying for my 'sins' seemed, and i just lost faith in it altogether.
Saying you are a Jehovah's Witness, Catholic or Mormon are just brand names! :D I was thinking about this recently!
Playstation, Gamecube, and X Box (...) -- They are all computer game consoles!
Coke, Pepsi, Fanta- Brand names!
:D
You forgot about, Lutherans, Baptist, Presbyterians, Orthodox, Methodist, Disciples of Christ, Pentacostal, the list goes on
i always loved to collect books.
if any jw came and looked at my bookshelf now they would turn probably turn white.
Ive been reading this literature since the age of thirteen and I was born into the org.
i always loved to collect books.
if any jw came and looked at my bookshelf now they would turn probably turn white.
I still havent left the org